1 Concerning Git's Packing Heuristics
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4 Oh, here's a really stupid question:
8 of git's packing heuristics?
10 Be careful what you ask!
12 Followers of the git, please open the git IRC Log and turn to
15 It's a rare occasion, and we are joined by the King Git Himself,
16 Linus Torvalds (linus). Nathaniel Smith, (njs`), has the floor
17 and seeks enlightenment. Others are present, but silent.
21 <njs`> Oh, here's a really stupid question -- where do I go to
22 learn the details of git's packing heuristics? google avails
23 me not, reading the source didn't help a lot, and wading
24 through the whole mailing list seems less efficient than any
27 It is a bold start! A plea for help combined with a simultaneous
28 tri-part attack on some of the tried and true mainstays in the quest
29 for enlightenment. Brash accusations of google being useless. Hubris!
30 Maligning the source. Heresy! Disdain for the mailing list archives.
33 <pasky> yes, the packing-related delta stuff is somewhat
34 mysterious even for me ;)
36 Ah! Modesty after all.
38 <linus> njs, I don't think the docs exist. That's something where
39 I don't think anybody else than me even really got involved.
40 Most of the rest of git others have been busy with (especially
41 Junio), but packing nobody touched after I did it.
43 It's cryptic, yet vague. Linus in style for sure. Wise men
44 interpret this as an apology. A few argue it is merely a
47 <njs`> I guess the next step is "read the source again", but I
48 have to build up a certain level of gumption first :-)
50 Indeed! On both points.
52 <linus> The packing heuristic is actually really really simple.
58 And switch. That ought to do it!
60 <linus> Remember: git really doesn't follow files. So what it does is
61 - generate a list of all objects
62 - sort the list according to magic heuristics
63 - walk the list, using a sliding window, seeing if an object
64 can be diffed against another object in the window
65 - write out the list in recency order
67 The traditional understatement:
69 <njs`> I suspect that what I'm missing is the precise definition of
72 The traditional insight:
76 And Babel-like confusion flowed.
78 <njs`> oh, hmm, and I'm not sure what this sliding window means either
80 <pasky> iirc, it appeared to me to be just the sha1 of the object
81 when reading the code casually ...
83 ... which simply doesn't sound as a very good heuristics, though ;)
85 <njs`> .....and recency order. okay, I think it's clear I didn't
86 even realize how much I wasn't realizing :-)
88 Ah, grasshopper! And thus the enlightenment begins anew.
90 <linus> The "magic" is actually in theory totally arbitrary.
91 ANY order will give you a working pack, but no, it's not
94 Before talking about the ordering for the sliding delta
95 window, let's talk about the recency order. That's more
98 <njs`> Right, but if all you want is a working way to pack things
99 together, you could just use cat and save yourself some
104 <linus> The recency ordering (which is basically: put objects
105 _physically_ into the pack in the order that they are
106 "reachable" from the head) is important.
110 <linus> It's important because that's the thing that gives packs
111 good locality. It keeps the objects close to the head (whether
112 they are old or new, but they are _reachable_ from the head)
113 at the head of the pack. So packs actually have absolutely
114 _wonderful_ IO patterns.
116 Read that again, because it is important.
118 <linus> But recency ordering is totally useless for deciding how
119 to actually generate the deltas, so the delta ordering is
122 The delta ordering is (wait for it):
123 - first sort by the "basename" of the object, as defined by
124 the name the object was _first_ reached through when
125 generating the object list
126 - within the same basename, sort by size of the object
127 - but always sort different types separately (commits first).
129 That's not exactly it, but it's very close.
131 <njs`> The "_first_ reached" thing is not too important, just you
132 need some way to break ties since the same objects may be
133 reachable many ways, yes?
135 And as if to clarify:
137 <linus> The point is that it's all really just any random
138 heuristic, and the ordering is totally unimportant for
139 correctness, but it helps a lot if the heuristic gives
140 "clumping" for things that are likely to delta well against
143 It is an important point, so secretly, I did my own research and have
144 included my results below. To be fair, it has changed some over time.
145 And through the magic of Revisionistic History, I draw upon this entry
146 from The Git IRC Logs on my father's birthday, March 1:
148 <gitster> The quote from the above linus should be rewritten a
150 - first sort by type. Different objects never delta with
152 - then sort by filename/dirname. hash of the basename
153 occupies the top BITS_PER_INT-DIR_BITS bits, and bottom
154 DIR_BITS are for the hash of leading path elements.
155 - then if we are doing "thin" pack, the objects we are _not_
156 going to pack but we know about are sorted earlier than
158 - and finally sort by size, larger to smaller.
160 In one swell-foop, clarification and obscurification! Nonetheless,
161 authoritative. Cryptic, yet concise. It even solicits notions of
162 quotes from The Source Code. Clearly, more study is needed.
164 <gitster> That's the sort order. What this means is:
165 - we do not delta different object types.
166 - we prefer to delta the objects with the same full path, but
167 allow files with the same name from different directories.
168 - we always prefer to delta against objects we are not going
169 to send, if there are some.
170 - we prefer to delta against larger objects, so that we have
173 The penultimate rule is for "thin" packs. It is used when
174 the other side is known to have such objects.
176 There it is again. "Thin" packs. I'm thinking to myself, "What
177 is a 'thin' pack?" So I ask:
179 <jdl> What is a "thin" pack?
181 <gitster> Use of --objects-edge to rev-list as the upstream of
182 pack-objects. The pack transfer protocol negotiates that.
184 Woo hoo! Cleared that _right_ up!
186 <gitster> There are two directions - push and fetch.
188 There! Did you see it? It is not '"push" and "pull"'! How often the
189 confusion has started here. So casually mentioned, too!
191 <gitster> For push, git-send-pack invokes git-receive-pack on the
192 other end. The receive-pack says "I have up to these commits".
193 send-pack looks at them, and computes what are missing from
194 the other end. So "thin" could be the default there.
196 In the other direction, fetch, git-fetch-pack and
197 git-clone-pack invokes git-upload-pack on the other end
198 (via ssh or by talking to the daemon).
200 There are two cases: fetch-pack with -k and clone-pack is one,
201 fetch-pack without -k is the other. clone-pack and fetch-pack
202 with -k will keep the downloaded packfile without expanded, so
203 we do not use thin pack transfer. Otherwise, the generated
204 pack will have delta without base object in the same pack.
206 But fetch-pack without -k will explode the received pack into
207 individual objects, so we automatically ask upload-pack to
208 give us a thin pack if upload-pack supports it.
214 Let's return to the previous conversation still in progress.
216 <njs`> and "basename" means something like "the tail of end of
217 path of file objects and dir objects, as per basename(3), and
218 we just declare all commit and tag objects to have the same
219 basename" or something?
221 Luckily, that too is a point that gitster clarified for us!
223 If I might add, the trick is to make files that _might_ be similar be
224 located close to each other in the hash buckets based on their file
225 names. It used to be that "foo/Makefile", "bar/baz/quux/Makefile" and
226 "Makefile" all landed in the same bucket due to their common basename,
227 "Makefile". However, now they land in "close" buckets.
229 The algorithm allows not just for the _same_ bucket, but for _close_
230 buckets to be considered delta candidates. The rationale is
231 essentially that files, like Makefiles, often have very similar
232 content no matter what directory they live in.
234 <linus> I played around with different delta algorithms, and with
235 making the "delta window" bigger, but having too big of a
236 sliding window makes it very expensive to generate the pack:
237 you need to compare every object with a _ton_ of other objects.
239 There are a number of other trivial heuristics too, which
240 basically boil down to "don't bother even trying to delta this
241 pair" if we can tell before-hand that the delta isn't worth it
242 (due to size differences, where we can take a previous delta
243 result into account to decide that "ok, no point in trying
244 that one, it will be worse").
246 End result: packing is actually very size efficient. It's
247 somewhat CPU-wasteful, but on the other hand, since you're
248 really only supposed to do it maybe once a month (and you can
249 do it during the night), nobody really seems to care.
251 Nice Engineering Touch, there. Find when it doesn't matter, and
252 proclaim it a non-issue. Good style too!
254 <njs`> So, just to repeat to see if I'm following, we start by
255 getting a list of the objects we want to pack, we sort it by
256 this heuristic (basically lexicographically on the tuple
257 (type, basename, size)).
259 Then we walk through this list, and calculate a delta of
260 each object against the last n (tunable parameter) objects,
261 and pick the smallest of these deltas.
263 Vastly simplified, but the essence is there!
267 <njs`> And then once we have picked a delta or fulltext to
268 represent each object, we re-sort by recency, and write them
271 <linus> Yup. Some other small details:
273 And of course there is the "Other Shoe" Factor too.
275 <linus> - We limit the delta depth to another magic value (right
276 now both the window and delta depth magic values are just "10")
278 <njs`> Hrm, my intuition is that you'd end up with really _bad_ IO
279 patterns, because the things you want are near by, but to
280 actually reconstruct them you may have to jump all over in
283 <linus> - When we write out a delta, and we haven't yet written
284 out the object it is a delta against, we write out the base
285 object first. And no, when we reconstruct them, we actually
286 get nice IO patterns, because:
287 - larger objects tend to be "more recent" (Linus' law: files grow)
288 - we actively try to generate deltas from a larger object to a
290 - this means that the top-of-tree very seldom has deltas
291 (i.e. deltas in _practice_ are "backwards deltas")
293 Again, we should reread that whole paragraph. Not just because
294 Linus has slipped Linus's Law in there on us, but because it is
295 important. Let's make sure we clarify some of the points here:
297 <njs`> So the point is just that in practice, delta order and
298 recency order match each other quite well.
300 <linus> Yes. There's another nice side to this (and yes, it was
301 designed that way ;):
302 - the reason we generate deltas against the larger object is
303 actually a big space saver too!
305 <njs`> Hmm, but your last comment (if "we haven't yet written out
306 the object it is a delta against, we write out the base object
307 first"), seems like it would make these facts mostly
308 irrelevant because even if in practice you would not have to
309 wander around much, in fact you just brute-force say that in
310 the cases where you might have to wander, don't do that :-)
312 <linus> Yes and no. Notice the rule: we only write out the base
313 object first if the delta against it was more recent. That
314 means that you can actually have deltas that refer to a base
315 object that is _not_ close to the delta object, but that only
316 happens when the delta is needed to generate an _old_ object.
320 Yeah, no. I missed that on the first two or three readings myself.
322 <linus> This keeps the front of the pack dense. The front of the
323 pack never contains data that isn't relevant to a "recent"
324 object. The size optimization comes from our use of xdelta
325 (but is true for many other delta algorithms): removing data
326 is cheaper (in size) than adding data.
328 When you remove data, you only need to say "copy bytes n--m".
329 In contrast, in a delta that _adds_ data, you have to say "add
330 these bytes: 'actual data goes here'"
332 *** njs` has quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
334 <linus> Uhhuh. I hope I didn't blow njs` mind.
336 *** njs` has joined channel #git
340 The silent observers are amused. Of course.
342 And as if njs` was expected to be omniscient:
344 <linus> njs - did you miss anything?
346 OK, I'll spell it out. That's Geek Humor. If njs` was not actually
347 connected for a little bit there, how would he know if missed anything
348 while he was disconnected? He's a benevolent dictator with a sense of
351 <njs`> Stupid router. Or gremlins, or whatever.
353 It's a cheap shot at Cisco. Take 'em when you can.
355 <njs`> Yes and no. Notice the rule: we only write out the base
356 object first if the delta against it was more recent.
358 I'm getting lost in all these orders, let me re-read :-)
359 So the write-out order is from most recent to least recent?
360 (Conceivably it could be the opposite way too, I'm not sure if
361 we've said) though my connection back at home is logging, so I
362 can just read what you said there :-)
364 And for those of you paying attention, the Omniscient Trick has just
367 <linus> Yes, we always write out most recent first
369 For the other record:
371 <pasky> njs`: http://pastebin.com/547965
373 The 'net never forgets, so that should be good until the end of time.
375 <njs`> And, yeah, I got the part about deeper-in-history stuff
376 having worse IO characteristics, one sort of doesn't care.
378 <linus> With the caveat that if the "most recent" needs an older
379 object to delta against (hey, shrinking sometimes does
380 happen), we write out the old object with the delta.
382 <njs`> (if only it happened more...)
384 <linus> Anyway, the pack-file could easily be denser still, but
385 because it's used both for streaming (the git protocol) and
386 for on-disk, it has a few pessimizations.
388 Actually, it is a made-up word. But it is a made-up word being
389 used as setup for a later optimization, which is a real word:
391 <linus> In particular, while the pack-file is then compressed,
392 it's compressed just one object at a time, so the actual
393 compression factor is less than it could be in theory. But it
394 means that it's all nice random-access with a simple index to
395 do "object name->location in packfile" translation.
397 <njs`> I'm assuming the real win for delta-ing large->small is
398 more homogeneous statistics for gzip to run over?
400 (You have to put the bytes in one place or another, but
401 putting them in a larger blob wins on compression)
403 Actually, what is the compression strategy -- each delta
404 individually gzipped, the whole file gzipped, somewhere in
405 between, no compression at all, ....?
409 Reality IRC sets in. For example:
411 <pasky> I'll read the rest in the morning, I really have to go
412 sleep or there's no hope whatsoever for me at the today's
417 <linus> pasky: g'nite
421 <linus> Right: large->small matters exactly because of compression
422 behaviour. If it was non-compressed, it probably wouldn't make
427 <linus> Anyway: I'm not even trying to claim that the pack-files
428 are perfect, but they do tend to have a nice balance of
429 density vs ease-of use.
431 Gasp! OK, saved. That's a fair Engineering trade off. Close call!
432 In fact, Linus reflects on some Basic Engineering Fundamentals,
435 <linus> More importantly, they allow git to still _conceptually_
436 never deal with deltas at all, and be a "whole object" store.
438 Which has some problems (we discussed bad huge-file
439 behaviour on the git lists the other day), but it does mean
440 that the basic git concepts are really really simple and
443 It's all been quite stable.
445 Which I think is very much a result of having very simple
446 basic ideas, so that there's never any confusion about what's
449 Bugs happen, but they are "simple" bugs. And bugs that
450 actually get some object store detail wrong are almost always
451 so obvious that they never go anywhere.
457 <linus> Anyway. I'm off for bed. It's not 6AM here, but I've got
458 three kids, and have to get up early in the morning to send
459 them off. I need my beauty sleep.
463 <njs`> appreciate the infodump, I really was failing to find the
464 details on git packs :-)
466 And now you know the rest of the story.