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1 (;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
2 RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[0]OT[5x15 byo-yomi]
3 PW[pachi2]PB[Hujisawa]WR[4d]BR[3k]DT[2012-03-21]GC[438 +N5:bad! pachi doing fatal self atari because of seki. Should play D7 or A1.]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[pachi2 [4d\]: GTP Engine for pachi2 (white): Pachi Distributed version 9.99 (Satsugen-devel): If you believe you have won but I am still playing, please help me understand by capturing all dead stones. Anyone can send me 'winrate' in private chat to get my assessment of the position. Have a nice game!
4 ]
5 ;B[cp]BL[15]OB[5]
6 ;W[pp]WL[15]OW[5]
7 ;B[nq]BL[15]OB[5]
8 ;W[qn]WL[15]OW[5]
9 ;B[qk]BL[15]OB[5]
10 ;W[qi]WL[15]OW[5]
11 ;B[qg]BL[15]OB[5]
12 ;W[oi]WL[15]OW[5]
13 ;B[ro]BL[15]OB[5]
14 ;W[qo]WL[15]OW[5]
15 ;B[rp]BL[15]OB[5]
16 ;W[qq]WL[15]OW[5]
17 ;B[rn]BL[15]OB[5]
18 ;W[ql]WL[15]OW[5]
19 ;B[rl]BL[15]OB[5]
20 ;W[rm]WL[15]OW[5]
21 ;B[sm]BL[15]OB[5]
22 ;W[qm]WL[15]OW[5]
23 ;B[rj]BL[15]OB[5]
24 ;W[sn]WL[15]OW[5]
25 ;B[sl]BL[15]OB[5]
26 ;W[ri]WL[15]OW[5]
27 ;B[ok]BL[15]OB[5]
28 ;W[pk]WL[15]OW[5]
29 ;B[pj]BL[15]OB[5]C[Ootakamoku [3d\]: b dead
30 ]
31 ;W[pl]WL[15]OW[5]
32 ;B[qj]BL[15]OB[5]C[Ootakamoku [3d\]: t6 hurts now
33 ]
34 ;W[oj]WL[15]OW[5]
35 ;B[pi]BL[15]OB[5]
36 ;W[ph]WL[15]OW[5]
37 ;B[sj]BL[15]OB[5]
38 ;W[si]WL[15]OW[5]
39 ;B[so]BL[15]OB[5]C[Ootakamoku [3d\]: t11 mistake
40 Ootakamoku [3d\]: could have killed with r12
41 ]
42 ;W[nk]WL[15]OW[5]
43 ;B[qh]BL[15]OB[5]
44 ;W[kq]WL[15]OW[5]
45 ;B[fq]BL[15]OB[5]
46 ;W[hq]WL[15]OW[5]
47 ;B[jp]BL[15]OB[5]
48 ;W[kp]WL[15]OW[5]
49 ;B[jo]BL[15]OB[5]
50 ;W[jq]WL[15]OW[5]
51 ;B[ko]BL[15]OB[5]
52 ;W[lo]WL[15]OW[5]
53 ;B[ln]BL[15]OB[5]
54 ;W[mn]WL[15]OW[5]
55 ;B[mo]BL[15]OB[5]
56 ;W[lp]WL[15]OW[5]
57 ;B[mm]BL[15]OB[5]
58 ;W[nn]WL[15]OW[5]
59 ;B[km]BL[15]OB[5]
60 ;W[ip]WL[15]OW[5]
61 ;B[nm]BL[15]OB[5]
62 ;W[ol]WL[15]OW[5]
63 ;B[on]BL[15]OB[5]
64 ;W[no]WL[15]OW[5]
65 ;B[oo]BL[15]OB[5]
66 ;W[np]WL[15]OW[5]
67 ;B[op]BL[15]OB[5]
68 ;W[mp]WL[15]OW[5]
69 ;B[pq]BL[15]OB[5]
70 ;W[pr]WL[15]OW[5]
71 ;B[oq]BL[15]OB[5]
72 ;W[qp]WL[15]OW[5]
73 ;B[or]BL[15]OB[5]
74 ;W[ll]WL[15]OW[5]
75 ;B[lm]BL[15]OB[5]
76 ;W[om]WL[15]OW[5]
77 ;B[qr]BL[15]OB[5]
78 ;W[rr]WL[15]OW[5]
79 ;B[ps]BL[15]OB[5]
80 ;W[rq]WL[15]OW[5]
81 ;B[lr]BL[15]OB[5]
82 ;W[il]WL[15]OW[5]
83 ;B[kl]BL[15]OB[5]
84 ;W[io]WL[15]OW[5]
85 ;B[kj]BL[15]OB[5]
86 ;W[kh]WL[15]OW[5]
87 ;B[ji]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: does b look like 3k?
88 ]
89 ;W[jh]WL[15]OW[5]
90 ;B[ii]BL[15]OB[5]
91 ;W[hg]WL[15]OW[5]
92 ;B[gi]BL[15]OB[5]
93 ;W[pg]WL[15]OW[5]
94 ;B[qf]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: jlg may pull the plug :-(
95 ]
96 ;W[gl]WL[15]OW[5]
97 ;B[jc]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: I said PROPER HANDICAP in upper case. I will kill pachi at the end of this gamel
98 ]
99 ;W[rs]WL[15]OW[5]
100 ;B[qs]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: :-(
101 ]
102 ;W[fh]WL[15]OW[5]
103 ;B[ih]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: at least pachi is winning :-)
104 ]
105 ;W[sk]WL[15]OW[5]
106 ;B[rk]BL[15]OB[5]
107 ;W[ig]WL[15]OW[5]
108 ;B[gh]BL[15]OB[5]
109 ;W[gg]WL[15]OW[5]
110 ;B[fi]BL[15]OB[5]
111 ;W[eh]WL[15]OW[5]
112 ;B[gc]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: well I have played pachi today, see you guys around :-)
113 ]
114 ;W[dj]WL[15]OW[5]
115 ;B[fk]BL[15]OB[5]
116 ;W[el]WL[15]OW[5]
117 ;B[lk]BL[15]OB[5]
118 ;W[jk]WL[15]OW[5]
119 ;B[mk]BL[15]OB[5]
120 ;W[nl]WL[15]OW[5]
121 ;B[li]BL[15]OB[5]
122 ;W[lh]WL[15]OW[5]
123 ;B[ml]BL[15]OB[5]
124 ;W[mi]WL[15]OW[5]
125 ;B[ki]BL[15]OB[5]
126 ;W[hc]WL[15]OW[5]
127 ;B[hb]BL[15]OB[5]
128 ;W[ic]WL[15]OW[5]
129 ;B[ib]BL[15]OB[5]
130 ;W[ep]WL[15]OW[5]
131 ;B[eq]BL[15]OB[5]
132 ;W[dp]WL[15]OW[5]
133 ;B[dq]BL[15]OB[5]
134 ;W[co]WL[15]OW[5]
135 ;B[bp]BL[15]OB[5]
136 ;W[bo]WL[15]OW[5]
137 ;B[fl]BL[15]OB[5]
138 ;W[fm]WL[15]OW[5]
139 ;B[ek]BL[15]OB[5]
140 ;W[dk]WL[15]OW[5]
141 ;B[ei]BL[15]OB[5]
142 ;W[di]WL[15]OW[5]
143 ;B[em]BL[15]OB[5]
144 ;W[dl]WL[15]OW[5]
145 ;B[gm]BL[15]OB[5]
146 ;W[fn]WL[15]OW[5]
147 ;B[hm]BL[15]OB[5]
148 ;W[im]WL[15]OW[5]
149 ;B[hl]BL[15]OB[5]
150 ;W[hk]WL[15]OW[5]
151 ;B[gk]BL[15]OB[5]
152 ;W[hn]WL[15]OW[5]
153 ;B[hj]BL[15]OB[5]
154 ;W[cd]WL[15]OW[5]
155 ;B[dc]BL[15]OB[5]
156 ;W[dd]WL[15]OW[5]
157 ;B[cc]BL[15]OB[5]
158 ;W[ed]WL[15]OW[5]
159 ;B[fc]BL[15]OB[5]
160 ;W[bc]WL[15]OW[5]
161 ;B[bb]BL[15]OB[5]
162 ;W[ik]WL[15]OW[5]
163 ;B[jn]BL[15]OB[5]
164 ;W[gn]WL[15]OW[5]
165 ;B[gl]BL[15]OB[5]
166 ;W[jm]WL[15]OW[5]
167 ;B[kn]BL[15]OB[5]
168 ;W[in]WL[15]OW[5]
169 ;B[bd]BL[15]OB[5]
170 ;W[be]WL[15]OW[5]
171 ;B[ac]BL[15]OB[5]
172 ;W[pc]WL[15]OW[5]
173 ;B[rc]BL[15]OB[5]
174 ;W[qd]WL[15]OW[5]
175 ;B[rd]BL[15]OB[5]
176 ;W[pf]WL[15]OW[5]
177 ;B[qe]BL[15]OB[5]
178 ;W[hh]WL[15]OW[5]
179 ;B[hi]BL[15]OB[5]
180 ;W[sp]WL[15]OW[5]
181 ;B[sq]BL[15]OB[5]
182 ;W[pe]WL[15]OW[5]
183 ;B[qc]BL[15]OB[5]
184 ;W[br]WL[15]OW[5]
185 ;B[cq]BL[15]OB[5]
186 ;W[gr]WL[15]OW[5]
187 ;B[fr]BL[15]OB[5]
188 ;W[lc]WL[15]OW[5]
189 ;B[kd]BL[15]OB[5]
190 ;W[ld]WL[15]OW[5]
191 ;B[pd]BL[15]OB[5]
192 ;W[od]WL[15]OW[5]
193 ;B[ao]BL[15]OB[5]
194 ;W[an]WL[15]OW[5]
195 ;B[ap]BL[15]OB[5]
196 ;W[bn]WL[15]OW[5]
197 ;B[oc]BL[15]OB[5]
198 ;W[pb]WL[15]OW[5]
199 ;B[ob]BL[15]OB[5]
200 ;W[qd]WL[15]OW[5]
201 ;B[kf]BL[15]OB[5]
202 ;W[pd]WL[15]OW[5]
203 ;B[le]BL[15]OB[5]
204 ;W[jf]WL[15]OW[5]
205 ;B[md]BL[15]OB[5]
206 ;W[mc]WL[15]OW[5]
207 ;B[ge]BL[15]OB[5]
208 ;W[je]WL[15]OW[5]
209 ;B[ke]BL[15]OB[5]
210 ;W[me]WL[15]OW[5]
211 ;B[mf]BL[15]OB[5]
212 ;W[cr]WL[15]OW[5]
213 ;B[dr]BL[15]OB[5]
214 ;W[es]WL[15]OW[5]
215 ;B[fs]BL[15]OB[5]
216 ;W[fd]WL[15]OW[5]
217 ;B[gd]BL[15]OB[5]
218 ;W[ec]WL[15]OW[5]
219 ;B[eb]BL[15]OB[5]
220 ;W[ff]WL[15]OW[5]
221 ;B[fe]BL[15]OB[5]
222 ;W[ee]WL[15]OW[5]
223 ;B[ae]BL[15]OB[5]
224 ;W[bf]WL[15]OW[5]
225 ;B[af]BL[15]OB[5]
226 ;W[ag]WL[15]OW[5]
227 ;B[ad]BL[15]OB[5]
228 ;W[ns]WL[15]OW[5]
229 ;B[nr]BL[15]OB[5]
230 ;W[kr]WL[15]OW[5]
231 ;B[ls]BL[15]OB[5]
232 ;W[gq]WL[15]OW[5]
233 ;B[fp]BL[15]OB[5]
234 ;W[kb]WL[15]OW[5]
235 ;B[id]BL[15]OB[5]
236 ;W[fo]WL[15]OW[5]
237 ;B[gs]BL[15]OB[5]
238 ;W[hs]WL[15]OW[5]
239 ;B[ds]BL[15]OB[5]
240 ;W[bg]WL[15]OW[5]
241 ;B[qb]BL[15]OB[5]
242 ;W[qa]WL[15]OW[5]
243 ;B[ra]BL[15]OB[5]
244 ;W[pa]WL[15]OW[5]
245 ;B[ne]BL[15]OB[5]
246 ;W[nd]WL[15]OW[5]
247 ;B[rh]BL[15]OB[5]
248 ;W[nf]WL[15]OW[5]
249 ;B[me]BL[15]OB[5]
250 ;W[db]WL[15]OW[5]
251 ;B[cb]BL[15]OB[5]
252 ;W[da]WL[15]OW[5]
253 ;B[fb]BL[15]OB[5]
254 ;W[ar]WL[15]OW[5]
255 ;B[gp]BL[15]OB[5]
256 ;W[cs]WL[15]OW[5]
257 ;B[bs]BL[15]OB[5]
258 ;W[go]WL[15]OW[5]
259 ;B[is]BL[15]OB[5]
260 ;W[hr]WL[15]OW[5]
261 ;B[ks]BL[15]OB[5]
262 ;W[hp]WL[15]OW[5]
263 ;B[ng]BL[15]OB[5]
264 ;W[js]WL[15]OW[5]
265 ;B[lq]BL[15]OB[5]
266 ;W[mg]WL[15]OW[5]
267 ;B[of]BL[15]OB[5]
268 ;W[os]WL[15]OW[5]
269 ;B[ms]BL[15]OB[5]
270 ;W[mq]WL[15]OW[5]
271 ;B[mr]BL[15]OB[5]
272 ;W[os]WL[15]OW[5]
273 ;B[ns]BL[15]OB[5]
274 ;W[he]WL[15]OW[5]
275 ;B[ie]BL[15]OB[5]
276 ;W[kc]WL[15]OW[5]
277 ;B[jd]BL[15]OB[5]
278 ;W[nh]WL[15]OW[5]
279 ;B[if]BL[15]OB[5]
280 ;W[hf]WL[15]OW[5]
281 ;B[jg]BL[15]OB[5]
282 ;W[jf]WL[15]OW[5]
283 ;B[hd]BL[15]OB[5]
284 ;W[kg]WL[15]OW[5]
285 ;B[ja]BL[15]OB[5]
286 ;W[do]WL[15]OW[5]
287 ;B[jr]BL[15]OB[5]
288 ;W[sr]WL[15]OW[5]
289 ;B[sh]BL[15]OB[5]
290 ;W[sp]WL[15]OW[5]
291 ;B[sn]BL[15]OB[5]
292 ;W[mj]WL[15]OW[5]
293 ;B[gf]BL[15]OB[5]
294 ;W[lj]WL[15]OW[5]
295 ;B[kk]BL[15]OB[5]
296 ;W[ef]WL[15]OW[5]
297 ;B[ka]BL[15]OB[5]
298 ;W[la]WL[15]OW[5]
299 ;B[lg]BL[15]OB[5]
300 ;W[lf]WL[15]OW[5]
301 ;B[jb]BL[15]OB[5]
302 ;W[ab]WL[15]OW[5]
303 ;B[aa]BL[15]OB[5]
304 ;W[og]WL[15]OW[5]
305 ;B[nf]BL[15]OB[5]
306 ;W[lg]WL[15]OW[5]
307 ;B[ma]BL[15]OB[5]
308 ;W[na]WL[15]OW[5]
309 ;B[lb]BL[15]OB[5]
310 ;W[mb]WL[15]OW[5]
311 ;B[la]BL[15]OB[5]
312 ;W[ba]WL[15]OW[5]
313 ;B[ca]BL[15]OB[5]
314 ;W[nc]WL[15]OW[5]
315 ;B[ej]BL[15]OB[5]
316 ;W[ir]WL[15]OW[5]
317 ;B[fg]BL[15]OB[5]
318 ;W[eg]WL[15]OW[5]
319 ;B[js]BL[15]OB[5]
320 ;W[sq]WL[15]OW[5]
321 ;B[pn]BL[15]OB[5]
322 ;W[jg]WL[15]OW[5]
323 ;B[po]BL[15]OB[5]C[replicator [3d\]: perhaps someone from Korea cannot read that and used automatch to set up a game
324 ]
325 ;W[jj]WL[15]OW[5]
326 ;B[jl]BL[15]OB[5]
327 ;W[rb]WL[15]OW[5]
328 ;B[sb]BL[15]OB[5]
329 ;W[je]WL[15]OW[5]
330 ;B[oe]BL[15]OB[5]
331 ;W[bj]WL[15]OW[5]
332 ;B[pm]BL[15]OB[5]
333 ;W[ij]WL[15]OW[5]
334 ;B[er]BL[15]OB[5]
335 ;W[aq]WL[15]OW[5]
336 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
337 ;W[eo]WL[15]OW[5]
338 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
339 ;W[bm]WL[15]OW[5]
340 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
341 ;W[re]WL[15]OW[5]
342 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
343 ;W[sc]WL[15]OW[5]
344 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
345 ;W[sd]WL[15]OW[5]
346 ;B[se]BL[15]OB[5]
347 ;W[fa]WL[15]OW[5]
348 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
349 ;W[sf]WL[15]OW[5]
350 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
351 ;W[bh]WL[15]OW[5]
352 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: pachi will play till the end because of the seki.
353 ]
354 ;W[ha]WL[15]OW[5]
355 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[Learn [4d\]: 30k
356 ]
357 ;W[sc]WL[15]OW[5]
358 (;B[rf]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: if you can kill fill all the liberty of a group, that grup is alive
359 BOThater36 [5d\]: can not
360 replicator [3d\]: Yeah!
361 ]
362 ;W[ea]WL[15]OW[5]
363 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
364 ;W[gb]WL[15]OW[5]
365 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
366 ;W[hc]WL[15]OW[5]
367 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
368 ;W[ok]WL[15]OW[5]
369 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
370 ;W[oa]WL[15]OW[5]
371 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: a game of 350+ moves
372 jlg [-\]: pachi will pass once all eyes are reduced to one point only
373 ]
374 ;W[cf]WL[15]OW[5]
375 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: yes
376 ]
377 ;W[ce]WL[15]OW[5]
378 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: programmers know this, but 50% of Go players dont know
379 ]
380 ;W[ah]WL[15]OW[5]
381 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
382 ;W[ss]WL[15]OW[5]
383 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: it is not easy to handle seki correctly in a program. We would do it if there was an easy solution
384 ]
385 ;W[rg]WL[15]OW[5]
386 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
387 ;W[ia]WL[15]OW[5]
388 ;B[ga]BL[15]OB[5]C[Learn [4d\]: thx god
389 ]
390 ;W[db]WL[15]OW[5]
391 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
392 ;W[qi]WL[15]OW[5]
393 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[replicator [3d\]: Solution= In addition to marking dead stones- have a seki marking tool
394 Learn [4d\]: w need b3
395 ]
396 ;W[si]WL[15]OW[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: In Yahoo go, in rder to finish a game, u need to make all territory to honeycumb
397 ]
398 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
399 ;W[da]WL[15]OW[5]
400 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
401 ;W[fa]WL[15]OW[5]
402 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[alpha080 [?\]: 应氏规则
403 ]
404 ;W[ha]WL[15]OW[5]
405 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
406 ;W[ai]WL[15]OW[5]
407 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
408 ;W[ci]WL[15]OW[5]C[alpha080 [?\]: ying chang qi rules
409 ]
410 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[replicator [3d\]: I think pachi only does this when it wants you to resign
411 Mateman [2k\]: lol
412 ]
413 ;W[bi]WL[15]OW[5]
414 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[Learn [4d\]: w need b3. thx
415 jlg [-\]: of course if pachi was losing it would have resigned already
416 ]
417 ;W[dg]WL[15]OW[5]
418 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
419 ;W[cg]WL[15]OW[5]
420 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
421 ;W[nj]WL[15]OW[5]
422 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]
423 ;W[ni]WL[15]OW[5]
424 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: B must feel so happy that wite keep filling his own territory
425 ]
426 ;W[nb]WL[15]OW[5]
427 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: and end up he still lose
428 ]
429 ;W[ob]WL[15]OW[5]
430 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: koreans use chinese rules normally right ?
431 BOThater36 [5d\]: no, japanese
432 ]
433 ;W[am]WL[15]OW[5]
434 ;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: ah that may explain it
435 ]
436 ;W[fj]WL[15]OW[5]
437 ;B[cl]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: lol
438 ]
439 ;W[cm]WL[15]OW[5]
440 ;B[bl]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: so before you play bot, you need to know the bot (Chinese rule) :-)
441 ]
442 ;W[al]WL[15]OW[5]
443 ;B[bk]BL[15]OB[5]
444 ;W[oh]WL[15]OW[5]
445 ;B[dn]BL[15]OB[5]C[CptObvious [5k?\]: jlg, when i say winrate to pachi, does it get my username? if yes, one could implement a queue command, for the next players
446 ]
447 ;W[ch]WL[15]OW[5]
448 ;B[dm]BL[15]OB[5]
449 ;W[ho]WL[15]OW[5]
450 ;B[en]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: yes it gets your name
451 ]
452 ;W[dh]WL[15]OW[5]
453 ;B[ck]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: but kgs decides who plays next, not pachi
454 ]
455 ;W[cn]WL[15]OW[5]
456 ;B[en]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: I hate bots, but I dont hate bot rule. in fact I love bot Go rule
457 CptObvious [5k?\]: you can put it into the config, i think
458 ]
459 ;W[ak]WL[15]OW[5]
460 ;B[em]BL[15]OB[5]
461 ;W[cj]WL[15]OW[5]C[CptObvious [5k?\]: you would have to reconnect after every game
462 ]
463 ;B[cl]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: I would have to kill the kgs connection to reload the config
464 ]
465 ;W[gb]WL[15]OW[5]
466 ;B[ck]BL[15]OB[5]
467 ;W[ea]WL[15]OW[5]
468 ;B[bk]BL[15]OB[5]
469 ;W[ia]WL[15]OW[5]
470 ;B[ga]BL[15]OB[5]
471 ;W[ia]WL[15]OW[5]
472 ;B[dm]BL[15]OB[5]
473 ;W[db]WL[15]OW[5]
474 ;B[ea]BL[15]OB[5]
475 ;W[dn]WL[15]OW[5]
476 ;B[em]BL[15]OB[5]C[Learn [4d\]: :)
477 ]
478 ;W[bl]WL[15]OW[5]
479 ;B[ck]BL[15]OB[5]
480 ;W[df]WL[15]OW[5]
481 ;B[cl]BL[15]OB[5]C[Learn [4d\]: panchi2 must fill its terriyery
482 ]
483 ;W[bk]WL[15]OW[5]
484 ;B[cl]BL[15]OB[5]C[BOThater36 [5d\]: eventually all has to pass
485 ]
486 ;W[ck]WL[15]OW[5]
487 ;B[dm]BL[15]OB[5]
488 ;W[en]WL[15]OW[5]
489 ;B[em]BL[15]OB[5]C[replicator [3d\]: upto 435 moves now....going for the record
490 ]
491 ;W[mo]WL[15]OW[5]
492 ;B[iq]BL[15]OB[5]
493 ;W[jq]WL[15]OW[5]
494 ;B[kq]BL[15]OB[5]C[jlg [-\]: Killing pachi because of incorrect handicap.
495 BOThater36 [5d\]: why pachi doing that? desperate or bug?
496 Mateman [2k\]: 0-5
497 ])
498 (;B[]BL[15]OB[5]C[alpha080 [?\]: how to end the game with pachi?
499 ]
500 ;W[]WL[15]OW[5]TW[oa][ra][sa][nb][ob][qb][rb][sb][oc][qc][rc][rd][sd][ce][de][qe][se][cf][df][qf][rf][cg][dg][fg][qg][rg][sg][ah][ch][dh][mh][oh][qh][rh][sh][ai][bi][ci][ni][pi][qi][ri][si][aj][cj][nj][pj][qj][rj][sj][ak][bk][ck][ok][qk][rk][sk][al][bl][cl][rl][sl][am][cm][dm][em][sm][cn][dn][en][rn][sn][ho][mo][ro][so][rp][iq][as][bs][ss]TB[ba][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ab][db][gb][bc][hc][ic][fj][gj][ll][pr][es][os]C[Learn [4d\]: it will take seki stones after finished
501 pachi2 [4d\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are dead. To solve this problem, you can press "undo", play until all dead stones are removed from the board, then score again.
502 Learn [4d\]: ha ha
503 jlg [-\]: the game ends normally by resign or 2 passes. ony in case of seki pachi has a problem.
504 jlg [-\]: B will get tired of this before pachi
505 Learn [4d\]: :)
506 jlg [-\]: In case of seki you have to capture all dead stones
507 Learn [4d\]: panchi2 stop it
508 jlg [-\]: this is explained in pachi2 info
509 replicator [3d\]: play probably can't read the recommended solution
510 replicator [3d\]: player
511 Learn [4d\]: u canot take alive stones
512 CptObvious [5k?\]: would s14 solve the problem here?
513 ihatelag [3k\]: just play S14!
514 jlg [-\]: to solve the problem it is sufficient to capture all dead stones
515 alpha080 [?\]: ...
516 ihatelag [3k\]: why doesn't black just play s14
517 jlg [-\]: again this is only needed in case of seki
518 justice [1k\]: hahaha....
519 ihatelag [3k\]: its chiense rules
520 replicator [3d\]: you are assuming they understand english
521 alpha080 [?\]: chinese rules or japanese rules?
522 jlg [-\]: is there a korean reading this? please tell B to either capture the dead stones or resign.
523 jlg [-\]: this is chinese rules, capturing dead stones doesn't cost anything
524 Learn [4d\]: canot talk when playing
525 replicator [3d\]: all the bots play by chinese counting so their final moves inside their own territory do not lose points
526 replicator [3d\]: but I have seen many such moves before dame are filled so they lose points anyway
527 jlg [-\]: yes you must fill all dame before capturing the dead stones
528 BOThater36 [5d\]: welcme to the cyber world :-)
529 BOThater36 [5d\]: thats why Ing rule is perfect in cyber Go
530 Learn [4d\]: i knew b had a bad yose to creat such .........
531 ]))